A Little Rant...

topic posted Thu, April 20, 2006 - 11:06 PM by  Loraine
The recent talk of making smart, sexy porn and if the sex of the director matters involving Erika Lust, Tony Comstock and Ms Naughty got me to thinking about this notion of porn as a voice – if it's a female or male voice matters little to me.

What’s said and how it’s said does matter, because most porn seems to talk to me not so much in a monotone, but in an insistent inane kind of chattering, a sort of wanna be frat boy locker room babble peppered with wild interjections, rampant exclamations and blatant exaggerations – mostly bragging, belligerent boasting, skiting in loud, strident tones delivered with a sometimes snide and sniggering style that makes me wince and grimace or at least it used to. Or its language is the sensationalistic vulgarity of the simpleton sex graffiti that’s come to define and characterise the contents of my spam folder, where hair colour and tit size dominate the vocabulary and lurid loses its appeal inexplicably.

I want to be spoken to not in the furtive whispers and hushed tones of erotica that has me leaning forward, straining to pick up the what the soft talker’s saying and hoping against hope for more substance - for more than a vague promise, unfinished business and a glimpse of coyly crossed legs. Nor do I want to hear the quasi-academic, mumblings of pallidly apologetic instructional edu-speak. My fingers are in my ears – really they are!

I’d like to be spoken to as a adult in a clear and frankly filthy voice in a language that’s richly descriptive, evocatively punctuated with glorious cock and pussy and with the occasional flirtatiously, flamboyant flourish thrown in for good measure. Speak with familiarity, with respect, with admiration, with talk of my pleasure, with a dirty, cheeky humour – push me a bit. Give me some smart mouth sass. Dig me in the ribs a little, please.

I want it to be intimate banter, witty repartee, amusing chat, I want it to be Noel Coward, Spencer Tracy and Kat Hepburn - I want some sparkle and tension and tenderness. I want it to be run-on sentences, lust-driven, desire-filled prose that leaves me breathless. I want to blush. That’s the kind of porn voice I’d like to hear. Low and rich.

Speak to me like a lover might.

Erika Lust -- erikalust.blogspot.com/2006/0...en.html

Tony Comstock
www.comstockfilms.com/blog/to...he-nuts/

Ms Naughty
www.msnaughty.com/blog/2006...for-women/
posted by:
Loraine
Australia
  • Re: A Little Rant...

    Sun, April 23, 2006 - 12:09 PM
    I hadn't followed the discussion you cite below (just caught up with all the various blog posts now), so I'm glad you brought it to our attention. It's a stimulating (and blessedly civil!) debate and I think all sides make some important and thought-provoking points. Well worth reading the entire exchange!

    Your own "little rant" is beautifully worded, Ell, and I think you articulate what a lot of women (and surely many men as well) feel as they watch yet another utterly implausible, badly scripted, tongue-tied (or, perhaps worse, inanely glib) hollow-voiced, flat-footed film limp to its predictable climax. To tell the truth, I've almost entirely stopped watching contemporary porn films-they're just too tiresome, too blatantly stupid, immature and dispiriting and the good ones, the ones that are actually arousing, that engage and intrigue the mind and the heart as well as the genitals, are so few and far between that finding one is like searching for a needle in a haystack.

    I'm not sure what the solution may be (besides, press-ganging you into writing a script for the unprecedented, revolutionary new collaborative film produced jointly by Comstock films and Erika Lust ;-)); I doubt that the powers that be in the adult film industry even feel there's any problem that needs solving, but at least with eloquent critics like you giving voice to disaffected potential consumers like me, I can still hold on to a little hope that someday, some film might actually reflect my desires and my experience and that proverbial haystack will grow just a little bit smaller.
    • Re: A Little Rant...

      Sun, April 23, 2006 - 1:45 PM
      "I doubt that the powers that be in the adult film industry even feel there's any problem that needs solving"

      i was talking to a guy who did the casting for a while for one of the big huge porno companies. i asked him why they didn't amke mroe good films with good actors and good plots. he told me that there was really no point in writing a really good story and plot cause they have immense trouble finding porn actors who can actually act. this was in LA. he told me that the ones who could act at all well were actually ACTING in either the theatre or the tv or film industry. and that they ended up with the ones who no-one wanted there. and lots of the time those folks weren't the best porn stars either (though some turned out to be). he also said that it took a bit for a porn star to become any good at that and most "actors" are investing that time in acting *with their clothes on* in hopes of furthering their acting careers.

      when porn comes out of the closet and smart folks like us start publicly identifying with a desire to have good porn i think it will come. here in the SF area there are lots of folks with fantastic ideas and lots of sexual talent who are just missing equipment. when the costs of the user friendly equipment come down enough to be accessible to those folks i think there will be a bust out of great porn. i'm feeling optomistic today.



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    Little nothings

    Wed, June 21, 2006 - 9:42 AM
    I've been noticing lately during sex that lots of times when I say something during the deed, I kind of mutter. And if my partner really wants to know what I said, which he usually does, I have to repeat myself more loudly, and this is no fun. And my partner does the same thing. Lots of times the hottest little tidbits that he utters during sex I don't really hear, because the best ones, he says at the lowest whisper.

    How to deal with this problem?

    1. speak up girlie, we can't hear you! If you have something hot to say, make sure we can all hear it!
    2. keep muttering, know that it's even hotter for your partner to try to figure out what you're saying.
    3. tape everything, review transcript later with partner and clarify missed bits

    Just thinking about ways to deal with the problem that it seems the best stuff is always said soco voto : )
  • Re: A Little Rant...

    Fri, June 23, 2006 - 9:34 AM
    Well said Loraine.

    What's said and the tone can be the most erotic hot instigation, or it can be a stone cold wall (in the case of the inane "porno" chatter you speak of) *shudders*

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